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Post by simon on Aug 24, 2017 14:52:07 GMT 1
This was probably dealt with on the previous board as I recall reading it, but I can't find anything about it now.
I read somewhere that ten clubs used squad numbers in the Football League at some point between 93/4 and 98/9. I only recall seing the lists for Brentford, Charlton and Brighton. Who were the others?
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Post by andrew on Aug 24, 2017 16:53:10 GMT 1
I've got a list of these at home with most of the issued numbers. I'll post them later on - unless Bjorn beats me to it!
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Post by andrew on Aug 24, 2017 18:32:30 GMT 1
1993/94
Sunderland 1 Alec Chamberlain 2 John Kay 3 Richard Ord 4 Gary Bennett 5 Derek Ferguson 6 Kevin Ball 7 Gary Owers 8 Don Goodman 9 Gordon Armstrong 10 Phil Gray 11 Craig Russell 12 Ian Rodgerson 13 Tony Norman 14 Shaun Cunnington 15 Brian Atkinson 16 Martin Gray 17 Michael Gray 18 Lee Howey 19 Andy Melville 20 Ian Sampson 21 Anthony Smith 22 Martin Smith 23 Steve Brodie 24 Jamie Lawrence 25 David Rush 26 Dariusz Kubicki 30 Sean Musgrave
Charlton 1 Stuart Balmer 2 Bob Bolder 3 Alan Curbishley 4 Peter Garland 5 Paul Gorman 6 Kim Grant 7 Steve Gritt 8 Carl Leaburn 9 Paul Linger 10 Alan McLeary 11 Scott Minto 12 Garry Nelson 13 – 14 Shaun Newton 15 Alan Pardew 16 Darren Pitcher 17 Linvoy Primus 18 John Robinson 19 Mike Salmon 20 Paul Sturgess 21 Colin Walsh 22 John Vaughan 23 Phil Chapple 24 Steve Brown 25 Danny Mills 26 Dennis Bailey 27 Mark Robson 30 John Lawson ? Richard Rufus ? Mike Small ? Michael Bennett ? D Lee
Middlesbrough 1 Steve Pears 2 Chris Morris 3 Richard Liburd 4 Jamie Pollock 5 Nicky Mohan 6 Derek Whyte 7 John Hendrie 8 Craig Hignett 9 Paul Wilkinson 10 Andy Peake 11 Tommy Wright 12 Alan Kernaghan / N Illman 13 Ian Ironside 14 Robbie Mustoe 15 Curtis Fleming 16 Andy Collett 17 Alan Moore 18 Graham Kavanagh 19 Michael Barron 20 Andy Todd 21 Phil Stamp 22 Anthony Barness / Jim Gannon / David Winnie 23 Ian Johnson 24 Michael Oliver 25 Paul Forrester 26 Steve Vickers ? Ben Roberts ? Mark Taylor ? Paul Norton ? Stuart Whittaker
Birmingham 1 Kevin Miller 2 Scott Hiley 3 John Frain 4 George Parris 5 Richard Dryden 6 Paul Mardon / Mark Ward 7 Paul Moulden 8 Paul Tait 9 Andy Saville 10 Ted McMinn 11 Dave Smith / Miguel de Souza 12 Paul Peschisolido 13 Richard Steadman 14 Richard Scott 15 Chris Whyte 16 Keith Downing 17 Paul Fenwick 18 Louie Donowa 19 Graham Potter 20 Simon Black 21 Trevor Morgan / Roger Willis 22 Leigh Jenkinson / Steve Claridge 23 Paul Harding 24 Gary Cooper 25 Danny Wallace 26 Ian Bennett 27 Kenny Lowe 28 Carl Shutt 29 Lyndon Hooper 30 Dave Barnett 31 Steve McGavin 32 Liam Daish 33 Richard Huxford / Mark Ward / Steve McGavin 34 Neil Doherty 40 José Dominguez ? Peter Shearer ? Steve Robinson ? Darren Rogers ? Adam Wratten ? Dean Peer ? Ian Clarkson ? Martin Hicks
Brentford 1 Dean P Williams 2 Brian Statham 3 Billy Manuel 4 Keith Millen / Barry Ashby 5 Shane Westley 6 Grant Chalmers / Martin Grainger 7 Joe Allon 8 Paul Smith 9 Michael Bennett / Lee Harvey 10 Paul Stephenson 11 Marcus Gayle / Robert Taylor 12 Jamie Bates 13 Craig Ravenscroft 14 Paul Buckle / David Thompson 15 Dean A Williams 16 Rob Peters 17 Simon Ratcliffe 18 Carl Hutchings 19 Gus Hurdle 20 Tamer Fernandes 21 Scott Morgan 22 Graham Benstead / Kevin Watson 23 Denny Mundee 24 Steve Tilson / Darren Annon 25 John Cornwell 26 Matthew Metcalf 27 Ian Benjamin 28 Kevin Dearden
Luton Town 1 Andy Petterson 2 Martin Williams 3 Marvin Johnson 4 Julian James 5 Trevor Peake 6 John Dreyer 7 Paul Telfer 8 Scott Oakes 9 Ian Benjamin / Mark Burke 10 David Preece 11 Richard Harvey 12 Ceri Hughes 13 Juergen Sommer 14 John Hartson 15 Tony Thorpe 16 David Greene 17 Jamie Campbell 18 Jason Rees 19 Des Linton 20 Aaron Skelton 21 Justin Gentle 22 Kerry Dixon 23 Philip Richard 24 ? 25 ? 26 Scott Houghton 27 Alan Harper 28 Geoff Aunger 29 Paul Dickov 30 Mitchell Thomas 31 Kelvin Davis ? M Woolgar ? Paul McLaren
Shrewsbury Town 1 Paul Edwards 2 David Hockaday 3 Tommy Lynch 4 Mark Taylor 5 Mark Williams 6 Mark Blake 7 Michael Brown 8 Wayne Clarke 9 Dean Spink 10 Carl Griffiths / David Walton 11 Steve MacKenzie / Ray Woods 12 Gary Patterson 13 Jim Mulvey 14 Mark Smith 15 Joe Gallen 16 Paul Evans 17 O’Neill Donaldson 18 Chris Withe 19 John Brough 20 Kevin Seabury / Brian Croft / Louie Donowa / Mark Rutherford 21 Kevin Summerfield 22 ? 23 ? 24 Tim Clarke
1994/95
Sunderland 1 Alec Chamberlain 2 John Kay 3 Richard Ord 4 Gary Bennett 5 Derek Ferguson 6 Kevin Ball 7 Gary Owers / Paul Williams / Brett Angell 8 Don Goodman / Steve Agnew 9 Gordon Armstrong 10 Phil Gray 11 Craig Russell 12 Ian Rodgerson 13 Tony Norman 14 Shaun Cunnington 15 Brian Atkinson 16 Martin Gray 17 Michael Gray 18 Lee Howey 19 Andy Melville 20 Dominic Matteo 21 Anthony Smith 22 Martin Smith 23 Steve Brodie 24 - 25 Ian Snodin / Martin Scott 26 Dariusz Kubicki 30 Sean Musgrave 31 David Preece
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Post by bjorn on Aug 24, 2017 20:43:37 GMT 1
A few additions
Charlton 26 Mike Small & Michael Bennett (after Bailey)
Luton ? Matt Woolgar
Didn't know Brighton used squad numbers, but would love to have the list!
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Post by simon on Aug 24, 2017 21:02:23 GMT 1
Brighton. They only used them during the first half of the 93/4 season. thegoldstonewrap.com/tag/ron-pavey/"The squad numbering system was beginning to look very messy, with players’ numbers ranging up to 25, and it also caused chaos in our programme..."
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Post by andrew on Aug 24, 2017 21:06:38 GMT 1
I never knew that Brighton did either. I wonder who the other teams were?
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Post by bjorn on Aug 25, 2017 4:07:57 GMT 1
I never knew that Brighton did either. I wonder who the other teams were? Me too, I'll be having nightmares about this!
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Post by simon on Mar 9, 2020 22:34:43 GMT 1
Lincoln might be one of the 'missing' clubs that used squad numbers in 93/94.
I saw a match worn shirt on Twitter that had both name and number and there's a programme on ebay from a League Cup match between Everton and Lincoln that has Lincoln's players numbered from 1 to 20 (and David Flitcroft without a number).
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Post by andrew on Mar 9, 2020 23:50:03 GMT 1
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Post by simon on Mar 10, 2020 7:58:45 GMT 1
Now we just need to find programmes from towards the end of the season.
For 94/95 I think that the players had names but no numbers on their shirts and oversized numbers 1-14 on the shorts.
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Post by bjorn on Mar 10, 2020 10:02:01 GMT 1
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Post by simon on Mar 10, 2020 10:46:50 GMT 1
I found a team sheet on Ebay from a match between Northampton and Colchester from early 1994 that indicates that Colchester might be another 'missing' club. There are a quite a lot of Colchester home programmes from the 93/94 season on Ebay, but they list players as wearing 1 to 14.
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Post by bjorn on Mar 10, 2020 10:58:41 GMT 1
I found a team sheet on Ebay from a match between Northampton and Colchester from early 1994 that indicates that Colchester might be another 'missing' club. There are a quite a lot of Colchester home programmes from the 93/94 season on Ebay, but they list players as wearing 1 to 14.
Another excellent find, great work! Confirmed here: youtu.be/TBs7aeJ3paw
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Post by bjorn on Mar 11, 2020 20:16:18 GMT 1
I found a team sheet on Ebay from a match between Northampton and Colchester from early 1994 that indicates that Colchester might be another 'missing' club. There are a quite a lot of Colchester home programmes from the 93/94 season on Ebay, but they list players as wearing 1 to 14.
Another excellent find, great work! Confirmed here: youtu.be/TBs7aeJ3pawSeems that they started the season without squad numbers: youtu.be/DKiG5rqczbsBut they definitely did by 16th of October.
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Post by andrew on Mar 11, 2020 21:39:28 GMT 1
I don’t know why after all this time but I’ve suddenly just remembered that Bury did as well.
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